Auto-Trading or Do-It-Yourself

Frequently Asked Questions

Question: Is auto-trading more profitable than following your algorithm’s signals?

Our answer: Yes, it is! Success in trading is determined by multiple components: the signals are the basis but need to complemented with allocation management (how large is the allocation of the trade against the portfolio), position management (stop loss and take profits). Moreover, equally important, patience is a profitable virtue. Very often, traders take a so-called ‘revenge trade’ when a previous trade failed. We guarantee patience, we are not reckless, we give the market the time it takes to present the next opportunity.

Question: How do I know that you won’t create damage in my auto-trading portfolio?

Our answer: We work with a stop loss, for each and every trade, without any exception. The maximum loss we can allow to an individual trade is around 2% on the portfolio. Because of this, it is impossible to create damage in your auto-trading portfolio. In the very worst case, we will grow your portfolio slowly (as opposed to contracting your account value).

Remember that you can discontinue auto-trading at any point in time. It takes you a few clicks, in less than a minute, to discontinue receiving our signals in your portfolio.

Question: How do I know that these results are legit?

Our answer: There are 2 reasons why you should know the results we communicate on this page are legit (1) InvestingHaven is focused on results and nothing else (anyone following our work knows this) and (2) we added a screenshot on this page with the trades taken for our members, in auto-trading, to make the point that the results are legit. We can’t do more than this to prove the legitimacy of our results.

Question: Who is behind the algorithm of this trade alert service?

Our answer: InvestingHaven which is a small group of researchers and traders who are engaged in financial markets for some 15 years (each). Their aim is to reach the COMPOUND EFFECT on a portfolio which is what less than 10% of traders is ever able to achieve. In the end it is InvestingHaven’s quality label that matters. So yes Taki Tsaklanos has actively worked on this with his team members.

Question: Is this a unique algorithm or do you re-use it from others?

Our answer: It is 100% unique, not copied from anyone or anywhere. We worked on this for a decade, and trained it over time.

Question: Why do you offer these trade alerts as a premium service? You should already have retired with these returns?

Our answer: That’s the plan, to retire in 7 years from now. You can feel free to join us … in the end that’s the mission of InvestingHaven which we defined 7 years ago and published in the public domain back then! With the trade alert premium service we are just materializing what we envisioned so many years ago.

Question: What do I need to take the trades myself?

Our answer: If you are interested to have astonishing profits with 10 minutes of work per day you should consider this service. In the first weeks you have to spend more time to get acquainted with the logic of our algorithm and with our alerts. Moreover you need access to a brokerage or trading account that allows to trade the following 4 ETFs: SPXL, SPXS, GLD, SLV. If you have an account outside of the U.S. please double check you can trade these 4 instruments with a low transaction cost before signing up with our service.

Question: What do I need to follow the trades in auto-trading?

Our answer: Please scroll up on this page, there is a section that talks about auto-trading pre-requisites. In sum, you need a trading account (for instance, from Interactive Brokers) dedicated to auto-trading. Moreover, we will need you to sign up on Collective2 which is the middleman between our signals and your trading account, they guarantee that all our signals are executed in your account in a reliable way (they closely partner with brokers like Interactive Brokers).

Question: What is the required level of knowledge?

Our answer: If you are familiar inserting buy orders, sell orders and change the stop loss of an open position, you meet all the criteria to join this service. You certainly don’t need to be an experienced trader, on the contrary … this service is designed for people that have no clue about trading but want the results of perfect trading! You need to be able to learn how a trading algorithm works, and be open minded to our logic.

Question: What is the required level of experience?

Our answer: This should not be the first trade you take in your life. However, if you are familiar placing precise orders and understand the difference between an open market order vs limit orders you can do this! You need to understand how to look up an ETF like SPXL or SPXS, enter a trade and add a stop loss, that’s the minimum required experience.

Question: Is this service meant for investors, for traders or both?

Our answer: It’s primarily for investors who want to feel the excitement of doing trades on a shorter term timeframe. Investors typically have to wait many months before taking profits. With our trade alert service you’ll have profits in the first weeks, and if you accumulate profits the results will be astonishing without understanding anything about trading models or trading algorithms. In the end our service is open for everyone, we welcome anyone who wants to enjoy the benefits of an ultra-simple to use trading system with astonishing profit potential.

Question: Are you trading futures?

Our answer: No certainly not. That’s because the risk of trading futures is extremely high. You also need to be extremely experienced to trade futures. We only trade 4 ETFs: SPXL, SPXS, GLD, SLV. That’s it, nothing more nothing less. If you want to follow our algorithm your investing or trading account should have access to these 4 ETF’s.

Question: Which markets are you auto-trading: the S&P500, silver, any other?

Our answer: Only the S&P 500 is offered in auto-trading mode. We play short term bullish trends and short term bearish trends. We do so by trading ETF SPXL for bullish impulses in the S&P 500, we trade SPXS ETF for bearish impulses in the S&P 500.

We do not offer silver trades in auto-trading.

Question: Which broker do I need to take the trades manually?

Our answer: We trade 4 different ETFs: SPXL, SPXS, GLD, SLV. So any broker that offers these 4 ETF’s is qualified for our premium trading service.

For U.S. based investors and traders it should be easy to have access to the 4 ETFs we mentioned above.

For EU based investors and traders we know that Saxo Bank has the complete offering of the 4 ETFs. Some others have an incomplete offering: deGiro has only SPXS, Plus 500 has EDC/SPXL but not EDZ/SPXS, both with the data at hand on Jan 2nd 2021.

For non-U.S. and non-EU based investors and traders (Latin American, Canadian) it is not by default that your current broker offers these 6 ETFs. You may need to open a trading account with a global broker in order to have access to the 6 ETFs we trade. There are plenty of options like Saxo Bank, Ameritrade, Fidelity, Interactive Brokers, Webull. This is a non-exhaustive list. If you need some guidance you can check this online tool https://brokerchooser.com/find-my-broker

Question: Which broker do I need for auto-trading?

Our answer: You recommend Interactive Brokers if you are a U.S. resident or live in the APAC region. If you live in Australia we recommend Autoshares. You can easily open an account, online, in any of these brokers. Please check which other brokers are eligible for auto-trading, we always send our signals to Collective2 for execution in your broker account, so it is this Collective2 list that really shows the entire list of brokers that are eligible for auto-trading.

Question: I am based outside of the U.S., can I participate to the trades?

Our answer: Anyone based in the Americas and Europe will be able to participate. That’s mainly because those few times you have to enter a trade or change a stop loss happen during U.S. trading sessions. Anyone based in the Americas or Europe can do this during their normal day.

However, people based in Asia will do make the assessment themselves. If the U.S. trading sessions fall in reasonable hours you may consider this trading service. The further to the East the harder it will be. In the end everyone in Asia has to make a self assessment, and conclude how feasible it is to follow our alerts during U.S. trading hours (even though our buy/sell/stop loss changes occur only a few times per week).

Question: What is my minimum required capital for manual execution of the trades?

Our answer: We trade on average once or twice per week. So, to avoid that transaction fees become too much of a burden on your profits we recommend to start with a capital of $10k. You can start as of $5k as well but your transaction costs will weigh on the results in the first year (only in the first year by the way). We never take 100% allocations, we most increase our exposure in a trade in 2 or 3 steps (starting with 25 or 50 pct of the portfolio).

Question: What is my minimum required capital for auto-trading the S&P 500?

Our answer: Ideally, your principal is around $10k. If your principal is below $6k it will take a long time until auto-trading is profitable for you (because you need deduct the Collective2 and InvestingHaven fees). Also, market conditions will determine when your portfolio will start benefiting from the compound: in extremely difficult years (like in 2022) it will take longer than 12 months, certainly if your principal is $6k or lower. In ‘normal years’ (clean bullish and bearish trends), we will generate the compound effect for you within the first year even with a principal between $6k and $10k.

Question: Are the trade alerts (e.g., buy signal) time sensitive?

Our answer: Yes, they are. Since the Corona crash, we noticed a structural change in the market. Whenever our algorithm flashes a buy signal, the market tends to rise much faster than before 2019. That’s exactly why we introduced auto-trading: we are 24/7 in front of our screens, our buy signal are instantly executed in your trading account, we take away all the hassle from you.

Question: What were your results during the Corona crash?

Our answer: Outstanding, beating 99% of market participants. Hard to believe but true: for the trades taken during the first quarter of 2020 we had a realized profit of 45% in the S&P 500 category. In the second quarter of 2020 we had a realized profit of almost 80% in the S&P 500 category.

Question: Auto-trading looks too good to be true, I still don’t believe you guys.

Our answer: No worries, you don’t have to. We are not here to convince anyone, we are here to share success based on hard work and deep research. In times where financial and social media publish tons of useless ‘financial content’ we want to bring quality to the table. But we are not here to sell anyone nor convince anyone. If you don’t believe us we wish you good luck elsewhere.

(*) Question: So you guys beat Buffet and the S&P 500, can you prove it and what about world’s top performers like Medallion Fund?

Our answer: The annual results of Buffet in his Berkshire Hathaway are approximately 20% per year as per this official document. One of the best performers in the world is Medallion Fund which generated an 39% average annual return since 1988. Since the existence of our algorithm we did beat those numbers largely as well. As said before all trades are available in the trade log book in the member section.

(**) Question: Can you guarantee that profits in the next year(s) will be positive similar to the past?

Our answer: Trading markets or investing in markets has a factor of risk and uncertainty. Past results, no matter how great they were or achieved by which guru, do not guarantee similar results in the future. What we can and do guarantee is that we will increase your portfolio value when you opt for auto-trading.

Question: What happens if the profit potential of your algorithm diminishes in the future?

Our answer: In the unlikely event that we see our algorithm underperform compared to the great results from recent years we will be the first to signal this. Obviously, we will finetune our algorithm to adjust to new or abnormal market conditions.

Question: Do you have another question, one that is not listed on this page nor in the FAQs?

You can ask your question in our contact form, we will get back to you by email within 24 to 48 hours.